Gary Henderson: 0:00

My name is Gary Henderson. And I built the creator studio to show you what's possible. Today's guest is Jessie Lee ward. We had an interesting experience. C for most of our guests, it's their first time ever in discord. And we do all of our interviews live in the studio in discord. We have a live audience, you know, 30, 40 creators. They're hanging out, interacting, engaging, talking, going back and forth. You'll hear some of that in the interview today. But when Jesse Lee came in, She couldn't hear me. So I could hear her. The audience could hear us both, but she couldn't hear me. So we had this weird issue where she couldn't hear me and we tried. I left the room and then she was hosting and then. I came back in and she laughed and I was hosting. And then ultimately we took a journey. And we went. To zoom. And when we went to zoom, we were able to pick up our conversation. And really dive in and you're in for a treat. If you don't know Jessie Lee, she's the number one network marketer in the world. 34 years old. 1.6 million customers, 21,000 promoters worldwide. She's had months where she's done$400,000 in product sales. And she's doing this all while fighting stage four cancer. So you are in for an absolutely insane session, hit the follow button on the show and let's jump right into the studio with Jesse Lee. All right, now you can hear me.

Jessie Lee: 1:35

Oh, hello there darling. How are

Gary Henderson: 1:38

you? I'm well. I had the most amazing introduction for you. You'll have to hear it back. It's, it was amazing. And then, aw, we got done. And I was like, okay. And I said, welcome to the studio. And you were on mute and then you couldn't hear me the whole

Jessie Lee: 1:51

time. That's Dereo espresso. I'm sorry about that.

Gary Henderson: 1:54

It's fine. And then in my head I was like, see, I didn't realize how new Discord was to people. Mm-hmm. It's real new, like I've been in here for two years, building. What? Yeah, I like two years. We run pretty much a virtual city in Discord. We have masterminds and everything is all controlled and it's all connected to Stripe and it's this really fun environment. But

Jessie Lee: 2:18

I didn't know, I don't know where I've been, but I, I've been lost in the sauce and now I'm here.

Gary Henderson: 2:23

Um, so like everyone that's come in, like Pedro Aade came in and he is like, I've never been in Discord before.

Jessie Lee: 2:29

Yeah, Pedro's amazing. We actually were just texting last week, so I love that you just mentioned him. Yeah, he was, remind me to text him again.

Gary Henderson: 2:37

Yeah. He was one of our, um, first guests into the studio, but it was just, it's just fascinating to me that so many people just haven't experienced

Jessie Lee: 2:45

discord. Um, well I'm exp exp well, I guess I'm not experiencing it now, but I was.

Gary Henderson: 2:53

I was trying. Here's what I've done. I've got, you and I are still on stage so everybody else still sees you. Um, you can chat in Discord and have fun, piping our audio into Discord. So they just hear me and you coming through my

Jessie Lee: 3:03

voice. Oh my gosh. Okay. Let me find my disc discord again.

Gary Henderson: 3:07

So for everyone else, they're just, it's just like you and I are in Discord, me, and we're just connected in a different

Jessie Lee: 3:12

audio app so we can Oh, they are hearing us. They heard my Dereo espresso. I hope they're ready because I'm actually kind of a funny person.

Gary Henderson: 3:19

Well, let me, let me back up again and I'll, I'll kind of do a bit of my intro. It won't be the same because it's not as dynamic, but. Look, I met Jesse on Clubhouse and I had, I had met folks like Eric Worry and Ray Higdon and Sonya Stringer. They're all former clients of mine. And I knew a ton about network marketing, but I never met anybody quite like Jesse Lee. I started watching from a distance, and in my mind was blown when I saw you one day, it was either a Rob Moore, John Lee training, you were the guest. Mm-hmm. And I was watching the training and I saw you and there was a couple hundred people in the training and it was great. And then I pulled up Instagram because I was multitasking and. I don't know. And then pulled up Instagram and I saw you live on Instagram and I saw like 3,500 people watching you on Instagram. And at that point I was like, whoa, she's multicasting to the same, same content. She's talking to people a little bit different because when you weren't talking on the Zoom, you were talking different on Instagram. And I was just fascinated. And I started to dig in into what you did and just was amazed. And then earlier this year I saw you started a battle with cancer. And you're just kicking ass. Our job here is to show creators what's possible, and whenever I look at 34 years old, 1.6 million customers, 21,000 promoters worldwide in 41 countries, the number one network marketer in the world doing it all while battling stage four cancer and kicking ass. I'm so honored to have you here.

Jessie Lee: 4:42

Well, thank you so much. I love, I love that you said you like to show people what's possible, uh, because I think a lot of times people get overwhelmed with content creation and they don't understand how simple things can be. Um, and so I love conversations like this and it was definitely Rob Moore. I actually remember that. This is so weird. My brain's crazy, but it was February 10th and it was two years ago, so you're definitely right about that. But wow. Crazy. Don't, don't ask why I know that. That's just how my brain is. I'm a

Gary Henderson: 5:08

weirdo. Oh, no. I think it's, I, I think we all kind of have our weird tendencies and it's what makes us entrepreneurs and creators and lets us be that. Uh, and I'm really glad you embraced yours. Um, as I was doing some research, I, I kind of found you went to college and you got a degree I. And you, you kind of got a job outta college. Like where were you at in your, your, your head space? I think there's a lot of people that are, that are in college, they're working that first job and they're kind of maybe not so happy with it. Where were you at when like, maybe that was like, I don't know, 12 years ago

Jessie Lee: 5:39

or so? Uh, yeah, so I graduated from college and my degrees were actually marketing in communications. And so I had this big dream like I think a lot of us do where. Uh, yeah, I was really sure that I was going to work in advertising or public relations in New York City. Like I was positive this is what was going to happen. I had great relationships with my professors and uh, I was just sure, and then life kind of throws you for a loop sometimes, and I, I wish more people understood that life when it redirects you, was redirecting you where, where you're supposed to go instead of constantly challenging it and thinking, why is this happening to me? I just fully embraced it and I, not to say I was happy about it, but I ended up moving back to Maryland to. Helped take care of my grandparents who had actually raised me. They were in their late eighties, and it was just time for somebody to, um, To be there for them, really. And so I, I made a really tough decision. It was an easy decision, but also a tough decision. Cause I felt like all this hard work I had put into building this marketing, um, platform really to then do advertising, et cetera, in the city, was being stripped from me. And I was a little upset about it, but I knew I was doing the right thing. And, uh, just followed the path, moved back to Maryland and got a job in a pathology lab. And hopefully you can already hear from my personality. I don't really belong. In labs. Okay. Um, I mean, very boring, very, very boring. Just sitting behind a desk every day. If I never have to open another Excel sheet in my entire life and do another stupid Excel formula, you know, God bless it. That's when I, I'll just know that my life is even more divinely guided. I just don't care when people send me, here's my, here's my content calendar. Just open it and excel and follow the tabs at the bottom. I'm like, I'd rather die. Um, so I don't do any of those sheets or anything like that. I hire people for that. But, um, you know, I, I got a job in a pathology lab and it just, every day I would go to work and I would know that this is not what I'm supposed to do, and the way life works out, God will have it. I, I, my, my rent starts to get increased, and so then I'm thrown into, well, you better find some kind of, you, you better find some kind of entrepreneurial thing. And gig economy didn't exist at the time, so there was no. You know, what the heck? The, there was no Uber, you know, there was no DoorDash. I couldn't have, there was no time for me to do any of these little side hustles. The eBay flipping and Amazon flipping and all that stuff didn't exist. But I knew I needed to do something. And so, you know, I took all those talents, all those gifts, and it threw me on this path of, I started in direct sales, knocking on, knocking on doors, being in people's living rooms, making fast money, and I was just, I, I liked the feeling of being in control. Again. I liked the feeling again of, okay, if I work harder at this, if I get more skilled at this, then I can control that income. And then it was me, you know, being smarter about it, doing things differently, like you referenced right at the beginning, which was, I kept seeing what, that's really funny by the way, that F spreadsheets little thing in the discord. Um, that's me. That's me. That's a blonde version of me. Amazing. Um, but, uh, no, in all seriousness, I, I just started looking at what people were doing and then I would spend a lot of time learning. I would spend a lot of time going to events, a lot of time in, in blogs and at the time, online forums, just trying to find shortcuts to increase. To increase my output without actually having to really do more and started systematizing things. And so, you know, you mentioned the streaming on multiple platforms. I've done that and I, I will do that for the end of time because why wouldn't I make one piece of content into, you know, at the end of this, probably upwards of, I don't know, 250 pieces of content when it's all said and done. I

9:03

think

Gary Henderson: 9:03

it's so smart. Like, I think it's so smart to build systems to help people do what you've figured out doing. Mm-hmm. Like, what, what platforms do you embrace? Like, I, I think you're live on Instagram right now, but where do you, where do you go? What do you

Jessie Lee: 9:20

embrace? Um, I am live currently on YouTube, Facebook, TikTok, and Instagram, actually. Um, when I am, when I have an active podcast, which I, I'm up, I'm uploading random stuff right now, but I'm not doing my, my active normal podcasting. I would have also been recording it as well for a podcast. But, um, embracing platforms, I, I have this. I guess concept that I like to talk about, which is just omnipresence and. It's the idea for me where if you don't like me, or, well, it's two things. If you do like me, you can open any page anytime somewhere. And the likelihood of you finding me, uh, and seeing some piece of content of mine and being like, there's my girl, da, da, da, you know, is very high. So then I'm constantly in your mind. Uh, and then there's also the flip side of that, which is, which is okay if you don't like me, a lot of shame. That's terrible. But anyway, if you don't like me, uh, you know, and you try to block me somewhere, that's fine. You know, you, you, whatever. Just go ahead and open TikTok. So I'm gonna pop up there too. And then if it's not me that pops up on TikTok, it'll be one of those fake scammer pages of me, you know, like, doesn't matter to me. Uh, you know, if you open YouTube, oh God, there she is again. Oh my gosh, there she is again. It's just, I, I want to be everywhere all the time. And that actually is how I was able to build this brand. Uh, it made a really big difference that. I was just constantly in front of your face and, and that, and so embracing platform, I just embrace them all. I create probably the most on Instagram, uh, but then I'm able to, you know, make short form content or I'm able to, uh, you know, make a bunch of pieces of content from one piece of content and to just, and then distribute it from there. I love

Gary Henderson: 11:02

the embracing everywhere. When I worked with a lot of, like Louis Howes and a lot of people like that, I would ask my friends, I was like, do you know who this person is? And nobody knew the names. And when I set out to build my brand, I said If there's one thing I have to do, I have to make sure people know the name. Gary? Yeah. That's, I just have to make sure they know the name and, and they could have a great opinion of me or a bad opinion of me. And hell, it might change tomorrow. Who knows? Um, but like, and I, and I learned that like I've gone through these journeys with people where I've liked them and that I've not liked'em, and then I've liked them again and Sure. You know, like I get it. Um, you know, I understand it depends on where we are in our lives, but I just needed people to know my name because I knew everything else would

Jessie Lee: 11:41

come in alignment. Yeah, there's a lot of really big creators. When you think of people like, you know, grant Cardone was just a sales, um, uh, a car salesman, right? If we're being honest. Uh, and the amount of times he says things that, you know, whether you like Grant or not. His, his focus is actually on how many people will unsubscribe from his stuff. You know, he, that's one of his most trackable metrics, which I don't think a lot of people know that about him, but he knows he's putting out enough content. If his unsubscribes are higher, because the, he also knows the ratio then of how many people are also subscribing in that case. And so things like that, I think about all the time and, and too many people, I find, especially in the creator space, you're so concerned about what other people are thinking about you, you know? Um, This is not to pitch my program, by the way, but I have a coaching program and just yesterday, uh, I was talking to them about authenticity and how I actually want them to be more cringey on their social media. And when I say cringey, I don't mean like, ugh, like why does she look like that? Why is she talking about that blah, blah, blah. It's more like, can you stand for something? Can you be somebody who you're so sure about the things that you are sure about, that it's what you talk about. And because of that, you are accidentally kind of triggering people. You have people talking about you. Then behind your back, you have people that are always gonna have some kind of opinion about you, that their, your name keeps getting out of their mouth. The more that your name is coming out of other people's mouths, because of you living in your authentic truth, the better off you are when you're, when it comes to scaling a brand. Um, and so yeah, I do talk really openly about that. And so you mentioned you want people, you know, you said one thing, uh, is they have to know the name. Gary. I feel the exact same way. I, you know, whether you like me or you don't, you know my name, you watch my stuff, maybe you make your own videos about my stuff, whatever. Uh, but ultimately it doesn't hurt. It doesn't hurt me and it doesn't hurt my brand. And so, uh, I just want people to be more of, more of themselves. Quit trying to placate everybody. Quit trying to make everybody your fan. The more real you are, you're gonna attract people that are just like you or are interested in being just like you or are so aligned with you that you don't have to feel like you're being anything except for yourself. And that's ultimately how you're gonna build a business that not only you, not only grows, but you love to be part of. And that's a, that's just kind of the path that I've, that I've followed. I've done some weird stuff online, but it's been me.

Gary Henderson: 13:54

Have you, like, were you born this way? Have you always been this way? What a weirdo. Thanks. I'm kidding. Um, no, just like your authentic self and don't really give kidding shits about other people. Like, not, you don't care about other people, but you don't care about what they

Jessie Lee: 14:07

think. Yeah. Um, I would guess I was probably not born like that. I think that's one of those things that life will push you in one direction or other, or the other. Right. Uh, and I grew up, you know, in, in not a great situation. I used to joke about when I, when I'm working with salespeople, if they get super offended when they hear the word no. If you're somebody who quits, when you, when you hear the, when you hear no 10 times, I kind of joke around like, well, tell me, your childhood was amazing without telling me. Your childhood was amazing. Like I was told Don't constantly. Right. We just didn't have anything. We had no resources. We had, you know, I was the kid that was made fun of all the time. I, I guess, I guess I knew I was strange, you know, and I only knew I was strange cuz I was bullied, you know, only the strange kids get bullied. Uh, and I, I don't know. I was, I, I guess I was just a little. I just knew I didn't belong in small town America, so maybe that's what my problem was. But I've always been a dreamer. I can give you that. But the not caring about what people think, you know, there's levels to that. There's still times when I see some stuff where I go, what is wrong with these people? And I can feel the, um, Is that my computer shot up computer, um, I can feel my blood pressure rising a little and I go, Ooh, this is upsetting me. This is kind of triggering me. And then I have to set boundaries so that I don't get exposed to it. The only example I have of that right now, uh, is I'm really triggered by the cancer stuff right now. And so I'm trying to kind of set up like strong holds around that. And, and I'll explain that by the way. So you're not like, oh my gosh, I mentioned she's fighting stage four cancer on here. Like, what did I trigger her? No, no, no. Um, like people's comments, If they don't like the path you're taking to, to beat it. They bother me. You know, when people say stuff where they, like, if they question like, oh, does she, is she, I saw a comment the other day, I wanted to come through the phone. I'm like, Jesse Lee, put the phone down. You need to Berea. Uh, but somebody goes, oh, she's probably clout chasing. It's probably not even stage four. I'm like, you MF her. I wish. Like, are you kidding me? You think that I would brag, I'm bragging online about stage four cancer. Like what, you know, I'm, I'm like, okay, whatever. Um, so I do get triggered sometimes still, I still do get bothered a little bit, but I also know that the more real you are, you're helping somebody. So people that don't post, because your ego is, you're still worried about your ego getting hurt online. Who is the person who you're supposed to deliver that message to? You know, as much as there are people that hate me online, I know there are people whose actual lives I am saving from sharing my journey. And there's also, gosh, I don't know, probably hundreds of thousands of people now that I've helped make some money and tens of thousands of people that I've helped make a lot of money. Because I've been so much myself. So what is that gift inside of you that you are holding back because you're so worried about what you know? I don't know Martha Stewart, I'm just kidding. Uh, you know, Karen from high school is gonna say about you when you start posting on your Instagram, and I've never been a person that's worried about that. I've always kind of liked the internet cause I've always been able to find people like you, Gary. Uh, that I've been aligned with, that I felt like I, you know, hey, we're friends and maybe they lived in Australia and maybe they lived in the UK and maybe they lived in the Netherlands and maybe they lived in Florida. I don't know. But I was gonna find those people and, uh, the internet's allowed me to do that. And that's only because I've been real. So if I can encourage anyone to do anything, it would be, you know what, just say what you need to say. I think that's the beautiful part

Gary Henderson: 17:19

about the internet is, you know, it's really hard to find people that, that are like us in our little town or our little neighborhood or our little mm-hmm. The places we go. But when we get on the internet, there's a hell of a lot of people and it's real easy to find weird people that like the same stuff we do. We just happen to be in all kinds of different cities all over the world. Yes. Yep. And I, I think that's what's magical about it. Um, I, I really, really do. So you went into network marketing. How did you. How did you handle the, the stigma of network marketing? Sure. Like, did that bother you at all?

Jessie Lee: 17:53

Uh, okay, so I, so how do I handle the stigma? You know, I think that there was a very legitimate bad stigma, uh, probably about 15, 20 years ago. So network marketing 15 to 20 years ago was a pyramid. You know, like, let's be honest about it, the, it was these old white men, I love it. You know, and they would be in their suits and they would get on stages and they would talk about how you're gonna get your two, that get your two, and then you're gonna make your five that makes your five. You know? And they would just be these just, oh, they were amazing. They could talk the talk and they knew all the right things to say and they had all the one-liners from all, you know, whatever. And it really was where there was not product being sold. There were not services being sold. It was these people recruiting people to recruit people. To recruit people. So it'd be Timothy recruiting JJ to recruit Camille to recruit Antonio, to recruit Donald, to recruit, recruit Walle, to to recruit a fuzzy, uh, to recruit Dallas. You know, this whole one just going through, you know, that. Discord channel here. And you know, out of all this people, all these people, the only person who's actually making money is Timothy JJ J's making a little bit, Camille's making even smaller. Antonio's broke. The rest of everyone's broke. And it just became, you would burn through all of your contacts. You would go to Christmas and you would get, you know, people would stop inviting you to, uh, stop inviting you to the holidays. You know, because you're the person who, you're always trying to recruit somebody into something and you don't care about anything. So it got, in my opinion, a pretty good, they deserved it. You know, and maybe you didn't expect me to say that, but it deserved the rap that it used to have it, it deserved the stigma. It was not. Uh, and I'm sure there were some good companies and some, some good people, but I really would argue it was kind of few and far between. And then thank God some of this regulatory stuff came in and F T C came in and I don't love the F T C for a million reasons, but you know, it became, It became, you had to have a real product. It became you had to have a real service. It became, it really became a business where if you look at any good business owners in the world, it's, yes, it's a leader and yes, the leader's making more money than the rest of the people, but they're making more money than the rest of the people because that leader's job is to teach other people how to do what they do. So by the time I joined, there was still a stigma, no doubt about it. This is 12 years ago, right? Um. There was still a stigma. People thought that what I was doing was kind of strange. I would definitely get judged when I would go to things like, you know, town hall meetings or Chamber of Commerce or B Nni, like, oh, that's that girl that does that pyramid thing, or whatever. And so I just started to legitimize it. I started to be somebody that would chase the customers more than I would chase the the recruits. And I am a top recruiter. I've recruited over 12,000 people in 12 years, so no doubt about it. I can recruit like the best of'em. I love recruiting. I love team building. I love watching people, but. I've helped a lot of people. I have more stories of people that, uh, I mean that, that I've helped travel the world or more people that I've helped make millionaires forget about the millionaires. I've helped so many people make hundreds of thousands of dollars, hundred thousand dollars, tens of thousands of dollars. I've helped more people gain confidence in what they're doing, skillsets that I've taught people, whether it's sales, marketing, branding, whatever, go down the list of stuff that I teach people. Uh, You know, that's because of network marketing. I learned how to do taxes because of network marketing. I learned how to manage inventory because of network marketing. I learned how to fill an event, a hall, uh, an event, uh, a room for an entire event, whole halls full of people, you know, sta stadiums full of people because of network marketing. I've learned relationship building because of network marketing. I've learned how to speak because of network marketing. I've learned how to use social media because I was pushed to do so because of network marketing. So when people are like, you know, how do you handle the stigma well, I don't think people really understand that because of network marketing. I now run multiple, what they would say, the people that don't like network marketing, real businesses. I own traditional businesses. I'm an, I'm an investor in a lot of companies, all right? I've started my own companies, my own, I own, I own my own software company. Even like, I have so much stuff going on because I cut my teeth and I learned so much. So, you know, if, if I got scammed by the first person who recruited me. Well, thank God. You know, thank you for scamming me because this has been the best scam of my life. And now that I have, you know, so far, well, I thought I was about a quarter million dollars into medical bills since February from all this stuff, and I've paid out of pocket. Then I found out that they're not gonna cover my surgery, they're not gonna cover any of this stuff. The insurance, which is the real scam. Um, they're not gonna cover anything. So now I'm over half a million dollars in, in, since February, 2023 in, in fighting this ca, this, uh, this cancer journey. You know, I gotta tell you what. Most people die because they were too scared of being scammed by something. Instead, I took it as, you know, what everyone's opinion on it doesn't matter. Do I think I can be part of that 1% on day one when I had no money to my name? Did I think that I could be part of the 1%? And I'll be super honest with you, Gary, the answer was yes. I never looked at this and said, oh, well then I'm gonna be the broke person. I'm gonna be the person that fails. I'm gonna be the person that you know is gonna go on Discord channels and talk about how, how it's a big scam. I'm gonna start a channel on discord about how network marketing is killing people, or whatever these people talk about. That was never gonna be me. I joined and I said, so you're telling me there's a chance, like dumb and dumber? You know what I mean? Like when, uh, when Jim Carey's character is like, oh, you have a one in a million chance, he's like, you're telling me there's a chance? That was me. I said, you you telling me there's people who make a million dollars doing this? I think that's probably horse manure, but I'm trying to find out. And then, you know, I became the 26 year old kid making 20, making over a million dollars a year, and I did become that 1%. But it's like anything in, in business and in life. If you think that you're gonna be a failure, you know who's gonna be a failure. You, if you go into something, you say, I'm gonna beat this. I'm gonna win at this. I'm gonna be the best at this. I'm gonna be number world in the world at this. And you keep saying it, you speak it, and then you do it, and you take the actions to do so. Well, I'm not shocked that I'm number one in the world at this. I'm not shocked that my coaching program exploded. I'm not shocked that I have the following. I have. I'm not shocked that I'm feeding cancer. I'm not shocked at any of this. I saw all this happening, so whether people believed in me or not, or said it was a scam or not, or whatever, like did it bother me? No. Because people that talk about people, you know what, that is a, that is a basic, basic human. There's three types of people, right? Nor normal people. Those normal, basic people, they talk about people. Right. Those average people, they talk about people. That's the first type of person, you know, people that are, you know, more above average. They talk about events and the leaders out there, they talk about ideas. They talk about changing the world. They talk about doing things that make people uncomfortable. They talk about all the stuff that I'm sure you guys talk about here in this Discord channel and following Gary, and they go change the world. And that's exactly who I wanted to be. So, no, it doesn't bother me. It gets me attention. And attention makes me money. So keep talking about Hammus scammer. I'm just gonna live my best life.

Gary Henderson: 24:36

I, I love your energy. I, I'm so like laughing and having a blast. Um, and I love the fact that you've taken something that, and my dad was in Amway way back in the day, so I kind of grew up and, and my mom and dad were divorced and I wasn't super close with him, but when I was around him, I, I was definitely involved. Mm-hmm. And then, you know, working with, like, I worked with Ray Higden in 2014.

Jessie Lee: 24:58

Uhhuh. Yeah.

Gary Henderson: 25:00

So I helped Ray launch Rank Makers.

Jessie Lee: 25:03

Oh, I love that. Yes. I'm, I'm a lifetime, I'm a lifetime rank maker. Oh, so you

Gary Henderson: 25:07

probably came through a funnel that I built for Ray and you know, like Ray and I, like I watched that journey. I got the joys of working with Eric worry for a bit. Um, so he came over from Brendan Bouchard. So yeah, I've just always embraced the concept of. And maybe I'm different here, but like if I can go out and use my hands and mow the grass and get paid for it, then why can't I use my voice? Why can't I use my personality? Why can't I use my brand? Why can't I use, you know, something else? Why do I have to go to Walmart and pay the shelf fees? I've had products distributed through Walmart. Um, I know what those costs. Why can't I just get a better product from my friend down the street and help them out? Yeah, exactly. You can't help them put food on their table. I've just never. I don't judge how people make money. I would prefer, it's like I had a Jeep at one point in time in my life, and everyone with a Jeep or a motorcycle is a little bit better off than someone, not because we don't have a roof over our head. We have, it just blows around us. And it's like your Jeep could be shit, but it's better than not having a Jeep because you don't have a top. And it's like, you know, you could do anything in the world, but it's better than having a job because when you have a job, you got somebody that controls what you do. But when you do it yourself, you've got freedom. Like, I couldn't imagine if you were fighting a half million dollars worth of medical bills working a job that, I mean, you'd make good money, you'd make maybe 200,000 a year. Mm-hmm. But you'd never be able to get out of that. Like, it just wouldn't be possible. But now you, you kind of have the path. I think it's really, really cool. So I want to go to social selling because you've crushed it selling online. What's, what's the secret to doing it?

Jessie Lee: 26:44

Um, so a couple things I wanna say, by the way, about what you just said. I love that you said you don't judge how people make money, because a lot of people do, and it's not just network marketing, right? Like, I don't care how you make money, as long as you're not hurting people, as long as you're not an endangerment to people. Right as long, like don't go breaking the law and shooting up people and doing any of this crazy stuff. But you know, you're not gonna like what everybody does. Nobody is going to, uh, and that goes back to why I think people need to be so authentic because you're gonna attract people that are in alignment with you. Um, and then you really nailed it when you talked about jobs are just not gonna give you the freedom. And whether that's freedom financially, whether that's freedom with time. You know, I, I, um, I'm actually gonna be doing treatment in Germany. I haven't like announced this anywhere really too much, a little bit on TikTok, but I'll be in Germany two weeks outta the month every month. Well, of course financial freedom, but think about time freedom. You know, people, and, and this is not me telling people, you know, do chemo, don't do chemo, do natural, don't, I don't care what you do, just get healthy. But like I see people and they have to have these ports in their chest. You know, I've got a PICC line in my arm, but they've got these ports in their chest and they are carrying their chemotherapy to a job that pays them, let's call it$50,000 a year. You know, like, I think about that a lot now. I think a lot about the freedom of choice I have because I chose entrepreneurship. I think about the freedom of my time, where I wanna spend it, the decisions I wanna make, the things I wanna put into my body. I think about how I don't have to make the decision between or I haven't for years now, of course, but organic food are non-organic or traveling and seeing the world or not. Or, you know, buying these special air filters and whatever. Like, I just, I think about all of this stuff very, it's very real to me right now. And, uh, I'm not saying there's anything wrong with a job. I think there's a lot of people that do belong in a job. I think there's a lot of people that don't have an entrepreneurial spirit, but I think that there's a lot of people who could at least make a little bit of extra money in a side hustle. And that's what I've really always believed about entrepreneurship in general. But of course, the network marketing space is, you know, you don't have to be full-time at this. You don't, if you can figure out how to make 500 extra dollars a month, that's 6,000 extra dollars a year. Well, how can you tell me that the average household in the world cannot use 6,000 extra dollars a year and add it to their bottom line? Because you can't go to your job making$50,000 a year, which most people don't even, but I'm giving them like a leg up$50,000 a year. Then ask their boss for a raise of an extra 6,000. It just doesn't work like that. And so that's where I think a lot of my passion comes from is I don't necessarily want you to do this full-time. I don't necessarily wanna make you a multimillionaire. It's cool if I do, if I help you on that journey, but I do believe that I can create more freedom in your life by helping you make a little bit of extra money. Now, the social selling secret look. It's be real. You know, why do I sell so much? I could go on and on and on and on and on and on about this for a very long time. But I'm so real. I am me. You either wanna buy from me or you don't. You either wanna join me as as your leader, or you don't. You either wanna join my coaching program or you go, no, she's not for me. Okay. I mean, either way, the way I look at it is, I know that on a daily basis I am, I am attracting all the right people to me, everything I do is going to only attract the right people to me, because I'm not out there trying to be anything else. I'm not clearly, I probably, I think, I'm not thinking through my thoughts like, Hmm, Gary, I don't know. Let me, uh hmm. Let me think of the social selling secret. You know, like it's just blowing outta me because it's real. This is me. So people that follow me, they know, Hey, you know, that's Jesse Lee. You're gonna get her. Authentically. That's how she talks to her, her team. That's how she leads her team. This is how she leads her co this is how her business is, whatever. Um, but the other thing I'll say in that, I mean, I can give you a million things. Where's your consistency? When people are telling me, oh, well I don't know how you sell so much. Just, you know, I sell, um, well pre-cancer, so now I'm around like 200,000 in personal sales a month. But pre-cancer, um, I was averaging 400,000 US dollars a month in personal sales just from social media. And then that's not coaching, that's just product sales. And. You know, I, I am the most consistent person I know. I'm posting every day, in every way, all over the place. I'm out there being honest, Hey, I don't think this is for you. Hey, I think this is for you. Hey, this product bundle's best for you. Hey, you need to utilize this. I was out there, you know, going live constantly if you're not using live video and video features in general. Very strange to me. Very strange. Are you being consistent in making new contacts every day? I have whole entire systems of how you can find new people on Instagram, find new people on Facebook, find people on TikTok that are the right people. Right? Do you have online communities? Are you learning every day? I mentioned that a couple of times, but most people don't understand that this is not that complicated. It's just maybe you're spending most of your time on the internet scrolling through people's feeds, and instead of learning anything, you're just looking at what they're doing over the weekend. You're just looking at their outfits. You're just going on there, you know, like it, to know it's, and, and shopping with them instead of saying, what can I learn from this person? Instead of looking at someone else's like it to know it we'll, have you created your own? Instead of getting mad that somebody has an Amazon affiliate code, where's yours, right? There's so many ways to make money right now. You know, if you have a cell phone, if you have an internet connection, why are you not making money on the internet? It's just simple. It's that there's a lack of consistency. There's a lack of, of people going, oh, I saw someone else do that. How can I make that my own? And that's just something that I've, as soon as I see someone do it, I'm, Ooh, let me ipl, ooh, let me do, ooh, let me train that. Oh. And uh, that's made a massive difference for me. And then, uh, one more thing I guess, cuz I could go forever about social selling and what the secret is, is only sell things that you wanna sell. You know, like people are so easy to take so fast to take brand deals on brands that aren't even aligned with them. I say no to nearly everything and not just because a lot of these brands won't pay me anywhere near what I would be like, man, come on now. Okay. But also because I'm just not aligned with it, you know, it would be like, right now I'm vegan cuz of all these shenanigans. But it would be like if ButcherBox messaged me and said, Hey, will you be an, uh, an, an affiliate for us? Well, You know, six months ago, hell yeah. You know, I was carnivore, okay. But now I'm like, no, get me that juicer code, man. I'd be making all this juice every day. Give me a code. That's what I wanna affiliate for. And I'm just very aligned with that. I don't, I don't sell my soul to the devil. I don't try to go for a quick. Buck for anything. I only sell things that I truly stand behind. I only talk about stuff that I really believe in. I only partner with people that I, that I truly feel like we are in alignment with the right path. Same thing with podcasting, Gary. I mean, you probably know this, but I say no to a lot of people. They'll email in, they'll go to the, you know, the website and they'll submit, uh, a speaker request. I'm like, hell no. That is not somebody that I want people to, to affiliate my brand with. And, um, And too many people are looking for the quick fix, the quick dollar, the quick little scheme, scam, whatever. And I've just always been of the, of the mind that, uh, it's a long-term game. It's a long, long, long run, and, and I'm in it for the long run. And I think if you have that perspective, it makes social selling a heck of a lot easier. That was an

Gary Henderson: 33:56

absolute masterclass telling like, and, and you're, you're the master at it. But you said one thing in there and you said that you're, you were doing about 400,000 and you went down to 200,000. So I've lost some friends in my life kind of early and. Some people that I didn't get a chance to ask questions, but what if anything changed when you found out you had cancer, like you were, you were moving at a pace, did you change your pace up? Have you readjusted your priorities? Are you doing business different now to prior, I know for the treatment, but just in general, like business different or is it kind of the same?

Jessie Lee: 34:32

So first of all, thanks for asking that question because uh, I think a lot of people are scared to ask me questions about it and I think it helps a lot of people. It doesn't hurt them. So I wanna actually commend you, Gary, for, uh, for asking it cuz it's a really important question. Um, what changed when I found out I had cancer? Everything, everything. Um, you start to realize that you realize, God, you learned so much. And I'm gonna say something that's gonna be a big shock to people, I think. Cause every time I say it, people go, whoa, I think that cancer was the best thing that ever happened to me. And I know that's so weird to say, and I say that because I've been able to coach and train and say a lot of things about. You know, being grateful for stuff or living life authentically, or doing things that bring you joy or paying attention to the good people in your life, or, you know, fill in the blank. And as much as I truly believe I had the right intentions and I was doing those things, I was not doing those things until all of this happened. And my whole life has changed. So on top of changing, yes. What I eat and yes, how I sleep and yes, the supplements I take and yes, the exercise I do, and yes, the scheduling around everything I have had to change completely as a person. Uh, the levels of forgiveness, you know, you say things like, oh, I forgive that person. Do you? I've had to forgive people. For things I thought I was, I thought that I had forgiven them for, and I realized I was still carrying this around. I've had to spend so much time in quiet because I'm realizing that in your piece is where you find all the answers you're actually looking for. Um, my, my business is completely different. I only do things that I have to do. I realized why was I, why was I making sure I was pushing so much to sell$400,000 a month? And I realized that there's this weird childhood thing about me. And maybe, and I'm guessing there's some powerful people listening to this, and you'll understand what I'm saying very clearly. I've had this need to be seen as an adult because I was never seen as a child. So what I mean by that is I have always competed. I have competed and competed, and competed, and competed in everything I did. Because I felt completely unseen as a kid unless I won. And then I would be seen for 30 seconds, right? I would win something. I'd be the best at something. I'd qualify for something, fill in the blank. And everybody would, would, would go, wow, amazing. You're amazing. Good job for 30 seconds. And then it would be gone. And it wasn't really real love, if that makes sense. But then I realized you can't keep chasing that. You have to find. That, that self, that real self-worth, that true validation, that's so much more than what are you personally selling? How many people are you personally recruiting? How many you know big? How many personal people have you developed into millionaires? Like all of these stupid metrics. That really at the end of the day, do not make you a better person or a happier person. Can I prove to all of you that I'm number one in the world in network marketing? Sure. Can I prove to you on paper the amount of money that I make? And it's absurd? Sure. Can I prove all this? Yeah. Yay. Yeah. But does that actually fill your soul? Is that actually gonna leave a leg a, a lasting impact? When I pass away a hundred years from now, are people really gonna say to me, oh my gosh, it was amazing that you sold$400,000 a month. You know, sometimes more. Sometimes le, nobody cares, right? So I started paying attention to. Where's my legacy? Where's my impact? Where, how can I show people that there's more to it than just the bottom line? That you can absolutely live a truly authentic life, be a good person, live in integrity, and have many thriving businesses. What's that look like? So I pulled back on stuff that didn't bring me joy. I've pulled back on, you know, I've said, no, I never used to be the no person. I'd say yes to everything because I thought that if I said yes to everything, that it would, it would advance me somehow. And in some cases, sure it did, but now I'm saying no to so much. And so when I do say yes to something, I just want you to know Gary and your, your listeners to know, and everyone to know I'm doing this because I wanted to do this. I wanted to be here. I've, I've talked to you for, I've followed you for years now. I remember seeing you on clubhouse, et cetera. I wanted to be here. I see what the impact that you make on the world as well. And I wanted to be here. If I didn't wanna be here, I wouldn't, everything in business is different. Um, and I also think I'm more calculated now. I'm more, I'm more aware of things I'm, I'm outsourcing even more what really, what really needs Jesse Lee. Right. Uh, and what doesn't, because a lot doesn't, but you feel like, you feel like you have to do something, a all the time, and, and the answer is you just quite frankly don't. So, um, cancer will change everything about you. Um, it'll put a lot into perspective. You'll wake up every day and you'll actually be grateful. You'll wake up every day and you'll actually have that love and that joy in your heart. You'll wake up every day and you'll per pursue something, whether it's. Happiness. Whether it's faith, whether it's laughter, whether it's joy, whether it's talking to somebody that you haven't spoken to in a long time and you've been meaning to, I cherish every conversation in a completely different way now. And, uh, so, so everything's different, but everything's better. And I will tell you very honestly, did my personal sales drop down. Yeah. Because I'm not on live video every single day, like I was for years selling product, but. My income is higher than it's ever been. And so I think that has a lot to say with when you move in alignment and you start really getting the things outta your life that don't belong there, do it now. Do it now. Don't, don't wait until something catastrophic happens. Start paying attention to the things that bring you happiness, that are in alignment with you, that bring good people in your life and that. Yes, we'll move your bottom line, but not at the risk of losing yourself. And, uh, I think you guys will have everything you need to have a wildly successful business.

Gary Henderson: 40:49

That was an amazing answer and thanks for answering the question. I, I, I had a business partner. It was, today's the 24th. On the 22nd of May. It's been five years since I lost him. Mm-hmm. And he, he had a brain aneurysm that ruptured. Wow. And I didn't know anything about aneurysms, but I learned that most people, or not most, but a lot of people are living with an aneurysm that never ruptures. Mm-hmm. But the test to determine if we have one is too invasive, which would kill more people than just letting people live with aneurysms. Wow. He was moving a$2 million company from Michigan down to Tennessee and went to the restroom one morning and never made it out. Wow. So I've had moments like that and like I was really close with this guy. Like he was just in my house like two weeks before it happened. He was in his forties and I've had moments like that and now I'm 43 and I'm like, you know, who can I, like, who can I talk to that's had these life-changing moments, these, these. These, these pivotal points in their life and, and figure out what they're changing, how they're realigning their priorities, how they're looking at life different. Like, how can I learn from that? Because I don't wanna wait until that moment happens. Mm-hmm. I wanna be able to make those changes today and not wait until then. So if. If our listeners, if, if that hit home for them, just like it did me, like, what are the two or three things that you would suggest that we do today to really look at our priorities, to get ourselves maybe an extra 500 or thousand dollars a month, like you talked about, put that extra money in there, start taking this path on our own. What's a couple action steps that we could take today, Jesse?

Jessie Lee: 42:21

Um, you know, I think some of it's pretty simple. It's where do you actually want to go in your life? You know, like, what do you want to do with your life? And then if you were to reverse engineer that, are the actions you're taking today leading you towards that? And if the answer is no, well, it's not too late to change. Right? It, it's, it's set me on a path of like, I was kind, I guess I could describe it like this. It's sorting and sifting is another way to look at this. So when you're making a decision of, is this going to, you know, impact my life in the way I want for it to, you know, it's either a yes or a no. It's never even really a maybe and I guess it's getting crystal clear on that. Um, getting crystal clear on what you need to do, who you need in your life, who you want in your life, who's actually riding with you. I had a conversation today, the gym actually was somebody who's, who's very, um, successful, but, uh, he said that, oh, you know, my girlfriend is, um, my girlfriend. I can tell she's, she wants me to propose. It's that time. And I said, yeah, well, do you wanna marry her? And he said, yeah, I do. I was like, so why don't you propose? And he said, what do you mean? I said, let me say it like this. If you have someone who is completely in alignment with you, is constantly at your side supporting you, you love being with her, she is your person. What? You know, I've just had this perspective now of what are we waiting for, and maybe I partially have that perspective because I'm 34, which is not old. Okay. But I'm 34 years old and I of course have had the revelation of, I've done so much in my life and thank God I've got a boatload of God kids. I have five of'em, but I don't have beneficiaries. Right? I'm not married. I don't have kiddos to give this stuff down, down to, right? And I'm saying all that stuff because what are the things you need to do today? You know, maybe it's not maybe, maybe it's not quit your job, but maybe it is step more into that side hustle or more into that passion of yours or more into something that's truly just on your heart to serve and see what, see what that does. Because you don't know what's gonna happen. You don't know if all of a sudden you're gonna have bills for anything. It doesn't even need to be a medical thing, right? What if there's a car accident today and you didn't expect to have to get your car, you know, fixed or whatever. Like, are you prepared for a catastrophe? And we've heard this before, you know, people say, you know, you shop six months of expenses in savings and all these little like, ho, ho, ho, ho hum things all over, you know, the internet or whatever. Well, I don't disagree with it. You know, do, do you have six months of expenses? Not even just expenses to live, but do you have six months of expenses and if something happens? Um, and so I would say if you don't have an extra source of income, make one. That would also be something that's super important. I don't care what that is, it doesn't have to be something enormous. It could be a couple hundred dollars a month, but maybe you use that and that's always your investment money. Or maybe that's the only fun money you have and you start to actually pay attention to your budget. Like most people don't. You know, maybe you start paying attention to how much you're saving and how much you're spending, and how much you're investing and, and how, how money works, right? Uh, but I think everybody should never have all their eggs in one basket. Big believer in that. I had a, a life lesson I learned in 2017 when I was making a little over 200 grand a month at the time, and all my money got woohoo. Um, bye. I got terminated from something and, uh, I realized very quickly, wow, well I'm never doing that again. And that, that life lesson put me on the path of investing and, and stuff of that nature. But get something going. You know, start, start something online, and it doesn't have to be something that makes you hundreds of thousands of dollars. It could just be something that supplements your income, but that supplemental income could, um, could truly change your life. So, um, just look at what you're doing and start making some moves. That's what I would tell everybody to do. It's not too late. I love

Gary Henderson: 46:26

that. I, I do. Um, and you know, I heard a couple years ago that the average person in the United States doesn't have a thousand dollars extra if their hot water heater goes out or something like that. And I just think that's like, that's bad. Like if, if hell hitch and you gotta pay a thousand dollars deductible to get your roof fixed or it leaks Right. Or your air conditioner goes out, like that's just bad. Mm-hmm. And solving that is really easy. And I was listening to Dan, um, Dan's podcasts Monday, Mondays the other day, and I was, yeah. Hearing you talk about your passion now as coaching. Yep. So why don't you kind of wrap us up with, with where you're spending your time and what your passion project is and how you're helping people.

Jessie Lee: 47:04

Yeah, so I think it always was my, my passion. Once I started getting really deep into the network where, you know, I started having thousands of people that relied specifically on me. To, to train them. Right? And like I mentioned earlier, the best network marketers, they are not just the best at recruiting, they are the best at training people and, and moving a Salesforce forward, right? They're not the only ones selling, they're not the only ones recruiting. They are great at mobilizing people. And uh, and I love that. I love when I say I'm passionate about coaching. It's because there is something magical of standing in front of people, whether that's in person, whether that's on a zoom, whether that's on a discord channel, whatever. And you almost can see the light bulbs go off in their head, like, you know what I'm talking about? Like. You say something, you give'em a tactical point. You tell'em, do this and it's gonna get you this result. You see the, ooh, you see the eyebrows raised. You see the eyes get wide, you see the, the light bulb, uh, go off in, in their heads and you're like, yes. And it's not just because, you know. You were able to put that, that seed in their mind. It's because you know that the potential of that person going off and doing something with that tiny seed and turning it into something that changes their entire life, like, That is magic to me. It's magic to me, and I think I got most, I hope you don't mind to tell a story, but No, go for it. Okay, thanks. So appreciate it. It won't be long, I promise, but I don't even know why I asked. I've told you 40 stories and all of a sudden here I am. Can I tell you a story? I'm just enthralled,

Gary Henderson: 48:38

like, I'm literally, I take notes down because I get so engulfed in your stories. I'm like, oh shit, I gotta write this down so I can loop back to it. But I'm just, I'm having

Jessie Lee: 48:46

a blast. I appreciate that. So I'm having a blast too, by the way. It's a great conversation. I appreciate you so much. These are great questions. I'll never forget this. I, um, so there's this, so you know, Eric and Eric War, so Eric was my first mentor and he has this award called the, um, the Million Dollar Hall of Fame. And actually where I'm sitting, it's, it's to the left of me, like right here. It's right on my shelf. And it's this giant, I don't know, 15, 20 pound trophy. It's crazy. And the first year he did it, he had to be a verified million dollar a year earner. And it was kind of the pinnacle, you know, it was, this is the trophy. So I get the trophy. And I'm walking across the stage, holding it, super excited. And then I train the next day on his stage and there's a closing line. I say it nearly every speech, especially when this isn't, this was at MGM Grand in front of 16,000 people or something like that, right in the center of the stage. You're looking up, I mean, just imagine looking up into a stadium, you know, and you're just looking side to side. Oh my gosh. Like it's, it's, it is it, it feels exactly how you think it's gonna feel. And at the end of the speech, just like I always say, I say there is somebody in this audience. Who's going to leave here today and they're gonna do everything I just trained you to do. And they're gonna come back here and they're gonna be on the stage someday. They're gonna be the ones making millions of dollars. And I don't know who you are in here, but it's someone in here. And a year later I go there and I do my speech, you know, a different speech again. Um, you know, same thing, tactical training. Eric likes me to train on a lot of systems and stuff like that. And I'm backstage right after this. Year's million dollar. Million dollar hall of Famers cuz it's new people every year. Of course. And this man walks up behind me, he's from Russia and he's holding his 1520 pound trophy and he's got this big old, you know, grin on his face, ear to ear. And I go, oh my gosh, congratulations. That is just, how do you feel? You know, how do you feel? And in super broken English, she goes, this is, this is part, this is partially yours. And I've never met this guy before. And I said, well, what are you talking about? And he said, this trophy last year I was up in the rafters. I was up at the top of that stadium. And you said that there was somebody in here who was gonna listen to you and let you be their coach. You said that they were gonna follow you all year long. They were gonna watch everything you did and they were gonna do every single thing without questioning you. And that was me. And I'm walk and I couldn't even afford my plane ticket. My mentor had to buy my plane ticket here from Russia last year to be here and I won a contest in my company to get the ticket cause I couldn't buy the ticket. He said, this year I just walked across the stage cuz I left last year, 12 months ago and I made a million dollars because of you. I. And I'm crying cause I'm emotional, right? And I'm like, oh my God. And it was almost like one of those moments where I realized, you know, maybe you're not gonna coach everybody and maybe not everybody's gonna like you and maybe not everybody, even the people you do coach are gonna listen to what you tell'em to do. But the people who do, you're gonna change everything about them. And I realized I really, really had a God-given gift at that point. I really can move people into action. And so, When the time was right, you know, and it happened to be November this year. It all lined up how I was supposed to. I'm still building my company. I'm still topping my company. I've still got a lot of stuff going on great. Inside my networking company. But I was offered, uh, or I was, I was told I was allowed to start my own coaching program, and it was like, heaven's Gates opened. I don't know how to explain it. Like the angels were singing, like everything ended up being so guided. It just felt like. Every time I turn on the zoom, the energy I get from these people, like 1100 people are in my mid-level coaching as an example. So these calls are, they're big. Um, I just feel like this is what I'm meant to do. And so it's impossible for me not to be passionate about it, and it's impossible. We do these wins of the week every Wednesday and so, or every Tuesday. And so we just had a call yesterday and people getting on there and just talking about how, you know, they're getting brand deals or I did your Instagram coaching and this happened, or I did your branding and this happened, or I did the marketing and then this happened. I followed your copywriting course and this happened, and whatever. Uh, And it just sets my heart on fire. So when I told Dan that's what I'm passionate about, I'm passionate about it because it goes back to the question about cancer, where I'm just putting my energy into things that give me energy, and it gives me energy to watch people win. And so that's why my coaching program is just, I. I mean, I don't even hard sell it. I put it in my Instagram story. I'm like, here's the link. You know, like, and everyone's like, oh, thank God, you know, or I made my link in the bio. I'm not out there running millions of dollars in ads. I'm not out there campaigning for it. I'm not out. I don't do anything for it. But it's one of those things where if you're meant to be part of it, if I'm supposed to coach you, you have a feeling in your gut and you, you just want your, I gotta get around her more. I know she's smart. I need to get in her brain. And so being able to do, that's been amazing and that really is where I spend a lot of my time to answer that last question. I spend a lot of my time prepping for these. I spend a lot of my time putting together, um, stuff not only for the mid-level coaching, but definitely my top level coaching as well. They get a lot of time and attention and we do fun stuff like yacht parties and private jets and whatever. Um, but I spend a lot of time in that. I spend a lot of time, um, Sharpening my skills too, which I think is also probably why I'm so passionate about it. I don't wanna teach them on something in theory. I only teach on things that I do and then give'em extra tips and tricks and stuff like that. But, um, yeah, and then the rest of my time is spent, uh, in, in all kinds of weird treatments, getting rid of this stupid cancer that decided to live in me. Uh, and, uh, and, and really, truly, as weird as it sounds, uh, absolutely living my best life, I can genuinely say that right now. That's what I'm doing. That's where I'm spending all my time, is just living, living my best life.

Gary Henderson: 54:31

I can fill it in your voice. I feel the energy, the, there's a sense of peace with you. There's a sense of calmness. There's, I mean, you're hyper and you're, you're all over the place and you're, you're energetic, but there's, it's almost like an inner peace that I just hear when you talk.

Jessie Lee: 54:46

I really appreciate that. I feel that. Thank you. It's really nice.

Gary Henderson: 54:49

Well, thank you so much for taking some time today. Sorry about the technical difficulties at the beginning. Glad we were able to get this worked out and um, you know, thanks for fitting us in your schedule. I really, really, really appreciate you.

Jessie Lee: 54:59

Absolutely. This was super fun and I think it was my fault actually as well. I just needed to quit it, quit discord and come back in cuz I accidentally did it at one point and then I came in and it reconnected our audio. I'm like, uhoh. And so I had to figure out while you were talking how to, how to mute the audio and whatever. So I'll be better at Thisor next time. But thank you so

Gary Henderson: 55:17

much for having me at all. Thank you so much, Jessey Lee.

Jessie Lee: 55:19

Have a great day. You too. Thanks. Bye. Bye.

55:24

I had so many takeaways from that session with Jessie Lee. But one thing really stuck out to me. And as I went back and I reviewed and our red. And our process. It's one thing just really stuck out to me. She said, Start paying attention. To the things that bring you happiness. There are that are in alignment with you. And bring good people into your life. So, let me read that one more time. Start paying attention. To the things that bring you happiness. That are in alignment with you. And bring good people into your life. I've got to tell you, since I started recording the podcast creator studio here, it's brought some amazing. Opportunities into my life. It's brought our community back together. Right in our community. We're creators. And we're all over the place and we're on Tik TOK and Instagram and Facebook and Pinterest and YouTube and Twitter and discord and all these places clubhouse. Right. All these places. Now we have a reason to come back. Into our community and learn from someone together. We go on a journey together. We learn from Jessie Lee. Where we learn from. Pedro a day. Oh. Right. We learn from maybe Ray Higdon and that's coming on in the next couple of weeks. And then we have something to talk about. So. When I read and I processed. And I listened again. To start paying attention to the things that bring you happiness. That's Gary club. That's my community. That are in alignment with you. Like our community is full, full in alignment with my core beliefs. And bring good people into your life. I'll wake up every morning and I have coffee. Conversations. With my community inside of our discord server. I'd love for you to come and join us. Good to gary.club/discord. Join our community. Come in and say hi and introduce yourself. Tell me what you thought of this episode with Jessie Lee. Right. Just come in and join us. It brings me the most joy. Jesse Lee told me to go back to that thing. Right. That brings me happiness. And that's what will bring me the most happiness today. And that was my biggest takeaway from the time that I spent with Jesse Lee. So, thank you all so much. Hit the follow on the show. And we'll have another episode for you next week.